help brainstorm : @smacktalk haiku
what are some fun variations on rules we could try out? how could we make it so teams respond to each other and compete?
what are some fun variations on rules we could try out? how could we make it so teams respond to each other and compete?
Brackets with best 2 out of 3 each round proceeding to the next bracket until there is a winner. Maybe the final four can be best 3 out of 5 to make the championship rounds a little more interesting.
You could also do random rules each match like “no words that end in -ing”, “must use at least one word that uses the i before e except after c rule”, “must use a palindrome” etc.
I am not sure of what u are sayin can u express ur self a little more clear?
Here’s a little thing me and teampuce have been working on called Bloody Knuckle War:
http://bloodyknucklewar.blogspot.com/
Last night in a trial run Old Grimy suggested it might work well for the smack talk haiku. Kind of a LIVE cage match, poetry slam, rap battle kind of haiku challenge.
One person could start out with the first line. The next person would have to smack talk back in the second. The first person then finishes it off with the last line. The audience could then judge in real time who the winner was.
http://bloodyknucklewar.blogspot.com/
A little game me and teampuce are working on to challenge the likes of ff1scaredteam and others. Imagine a LIVE smacktalk haiku poetry slam, cage match. Player 1 does the first line. Player 2 does the second. Player 1 does the last line. The audience hangs out in the white boxes and judges who the winner is by moving to his box.
At the time of the event, before the battle, trash talk may ensue. Players would have to be fast on their feet or cursors as it were. Some lines could be worked out in advance but style points could be awarded by Ze or some panel of guest judges.
I’d really like Bloody Knuckle War to be one of the challenges but am happy to donate the current work product to the smacktalk haiku challenge.
re: the “that’s my mouse” stuff with the bloody knuckles game, can TMM handle a lot of people being on one webpage at a time, updating their mouse positions and chats? i’d imagine that everyone remotely interested in the challenge would want to watch live if at all possible. of course there would be easy ways to limit that with private access.
are we still wanting to keep this as much tied into twitter as possible, or is that not as important?
we could maybe utilize hashtags when submitting haikus, or do the ol @colorwarsubmit reply. hashtags could be shorter, though, like #STH or #SThaiku or something. check out the following links:
http://hashtags.org/
http://twitter.com/hashtags
http://tweetscan.com/index.php?s=colorwars&u=&d=
this probably would work similarly to how you guys already do colorwarsubmit and smacktalk, if not the same. of course, direct messages don’t take the “d colorwarsubmit” (if you’re using sms or IM or twitter app) into the 140 character count, so that may be the shortest twitter submit route. everyone would need to follow and be followed by colorwarsubmit for that to work i believe.
from what i’ve seen with the previous challenges you could probably easily write up a page or webapp that shows the active teams and recent smacktalk haikus. maybe we could do “@opposingteamname haiku here” to ‘direct’ them at specific teams.
odd rules like the ones mentioned above could be interesting. themes could also be interesting, like theme: bacon. i think an obvious rule would be that it needs to be smacktalkish. no transcendental mind over matter happy haikus, unless they’re mean.
@teampuce get ready for this; you’re about to get thrown down; @blueteam for the win!
I’d prefer to avoid a “live” component… needing to schedule color wars seems like a bad thing.
If you want it to be a faster paced thing it could require you to message colorwarsubmit and get a DM back with the keyword, at which point you’d have 5 minutes to submit a haiku containing the keyword.
The real question is if people just submit individual haikus or if a team needs to have an internal vote to pick which haikus to submit for the next round.
~BS
i agree, live events are fun but they’re difficult to facilitate for all. i effectively had to take my lunch super late for bingo, and did nothing but bingo the entire lunch hour =) not everyone can participate in live events, and it can be hectic.
the internal team voting thing would work for some teams, but i don’t think it would work for all. it would be great if there was some kind of team page that could be run and contributed to by the team leaders and members, but hosted at the colorwar2008 site. i know some teams out there have gone all out and put together a website and/or forums to collaborate on, but not everyone can have that. then again it wouldn’t be the best to just have everyone on a team submitting haikus willy nilly.
it would be neat if you could submit for your team and go to a colorwars page to vote on the best. maybe there could be a tournament style bracket set up rather than having teams challenge others on their own.
i still definitely like the idea of themed or keyworded haikus.
+1 for themed or
keyword haikus. Live would be
Too much scheduling.
It is a simple enough matter to screen cast the happenings on a service like UStream.tv. That way all of the traffic is offloaded to an entirely different location thus not affecting game play.
not a bad idea, streaming a live event. i didn’t know ustream.tv could stream a screencast, but i checked their help section and it says you can. cool.
what about logging? does that’s my mouse do any kind of logging of what each person says? i’d imagine we would like to have everyone’s haikus recorded in text form for easy later viewing by self and others. it’s probably recorded in a log on the server of whoever (website) is hosting the session. the other thing that might be a concern is authenticity - i could effectively pose as someone else very easily as there’s no linking or checking (that i noticed). you just put in the name you want to use and bam, you’re whoever you say you are.
It wasn’t the technical details I was objecting to for a live event… it was scheduling. Spending 30 minutes over a couple days (or many many more) on colorwars = no problem. Spending a particular 30 minutes in a row on color wars = problematic (for many, I’d assume).
I would like to see it be a bit more team-based though, like one country doesn’t send 300 pole vaulters to the Olympics I think the early rounds should be run within the teams, then the best haikus (or haikuers, depending) advance to the interteam competition.
~BS
I suggest staying closer to haiku than poetry slam/hip hop battle. Otherwise don’t call it haiku. That’s just my thought.
There should in any case be some criteria for the haiku, since there are a number of variations/interpretations. For example: reference to nature, 5-7-5 syllable format.
It could be that a haiku has a color reference, nature, and 5-7-5 structure, and could be seen as a call-out to that team by the team member creating it. #hashtags and/or from @teamname to @teamname perhaps for identification.
Should teams be able to coordinate first or is it submissions and rankings of the top three color-on-color and then battle between the top haiku? between each color?
sweet 16 elimination or number of battles won for overall scoring?
Ack, I have more questions than answers… o.O
Cheers,
@jeffmcneill of @orangeteam
From what I can tell, thatsmymouse does not have a chat log.
There are other javascript apps out there for collaborative scribbling and image creation that could be co-opted for use in a smacktalk haiku challenge. That sort of thing can be done on the user’s own time.
Then there’s http://haikoo.org/
It was made by a sports racer and is hosted on his own server so I am doubtful it could handle the hits. Perhaps it could be installed on a different server.
I don’t like smacktalk.
how about inspiration
to all your teammates.
points for being nice
should be as important as
meanness to others
@yorgle of @blackwatchteam
Want to put in another -1 for collaborative haiku construction. Haiku are tough enough to do individually, and it seems that so far that kind of collaboration has not been the driver of these other events.
In terms of the original question about making sure there is call and response, the teams could call out a given color and then the response would be from a team member of the first color calling out the first haiku artist’s color.
Add up quality points of the haiku on either color side that are labelled for that other color, and there you go.